Speaker 1: I think it's just
another step on the bridge to
whether or not Bryce Harper is
going to get his demands met.
And you know it didn't happen
face to face when winter
meetings were on but eventually
one of these guys is going to
get off the board and then
you're going to start to see the
domino effect.
But this is a first step in the
right direction for that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
I think when you look at the
player the youth everything he
brings to the table.
You have to be if the.
Phillies organization and the
fanbase is also for the big
status right you're looking for
opportunities in some of these
villages where you know you get
a chance to better yourself
against of these teams are not.
You know going to put up 90
wins.
They're still having some youth
in organizations you try to get
better right now.
The one those polls we've seen
these one those polls a lot
quicker you know than some in
past.
Speaker 1: I think the most
important thing with this for
the Phillies is the same
divisions and that's so you know
you want to be Tommy top or you
want to you want to you want to
add a guy like this because I
believe he's on get better.
I believe he's dealt with that
adversity in his in his game
that has seen some lows and now
things in a better place.
I really believe he's going to
shine impossible position
especially in that type of
ballpark.
Speaker 2: Well his ceiling is
very high as we know and he's
still very young.
Speaker 1: That said what do you
think the market is for a guy
who can ask?
You can always ask can ask for
Max money.
That's what we're talking about
with teams is also being hyper
efficient these days.
Speaker 2: What you think the
market really is what do I think
the market really is I think
probably eight years at 32 a
year on average somewhere in
there?
Speaker 1: I think realistically
I think he wants more than John
Carlos Stanton got in that
tenure tenure 125 or 13 year
sorry 325.
I just think that teams want to
go shorter.
That's what they want to do.
They don't want these 10 12 year
deals and into becoming Albon.
Speaker 2: Everybody is thinking
that it's like 22 teams are
thinking that the rest are
thinking something else.
That's the hyper efficiency of
the market.
Speaker 1: I wonder now like
where like when your smart
baseball ops people oral and
they're saying yeah we love them
too.
But like how does the market
react?
Speaker 2: That's the question
and is it a team that comes in
and says fine we'll pay you 40 a
year but we're only going to do
it over seven years or you see a
team that ends up doing that.
Speaker 1: So they're not
crippled by that contract for a
long term they're getting him
from those prime seven years
with opt outs opt out after two
years opt out after four years
all kinds of stuff.
Still a lot still a lot a lot of
getting a production from these
players consistently every
single year.
So I think when you talk about
more annually as far as giving
the 30 45 the 30 to 40 million
dollar range for less a year's
that's why I think these players
just start to understand what
these teams want to do.
Right it's not about you know as
a player that we call our agent
and go look this is what want.
Like you said hey this is what I
want.
Are you going to get it?
These teams are going Smari each
and every year.
This goes back to one cow Lowe's
was sitting at home not getting
a deal right.
You talk about guys sitting at
home with good miters stock
stock as these guys listen.
I talked to MU's last in
Toronto.
Stinted time just about how that
whole snafu has played out.
It was terrible.
You out put up numbers.
I'm supposed to have a lease a
legitimate chance to get a good
deal.
You get a one year deal if you
don't if you don't get smart
now.
Winning is smarter when you
realize that these teams are not
planned and once you have a team
come out and say certain things
like we're not willing to go
over seven years now everybody's
going on saying you know same
train and going well winning all
for seven years.
EATON Well I think to when you
have a guy like the owner of the
Philadelphia Phillies come out
and say we have a lot of money
we have stupid money to spend.
Now as of Bryce Harper Manny
Machol.
I will wait a sec.
Where's that big huge truck that
you were going to back up.
And I think that's what happens
is these guys hold on to that.
You have an agent who's Scott
Boras who's very good at getting
contracts for guys big huge
contracts.
But I just don't see the ten
year four hundred million dollar
contract.
I barely see the tenure 300
million dollar contract
happening.
So I think you're going to see
possibly a little bit shorter
maybe more for Bryce Harper the
Manny Machado just because of
the draw factor to meet Bryce
Harper sells seats.
If you put Bryce Harper in the
South Side of Chicago people are
going to games all year.
If you put Manny Machado on the
South Side of Chicago people go
to games for a little while but
they're still not in their
window of of a competitive team
just quite yet.
And I think that luster kind of
dies a lot more than a Bryce
Harper.
Speaker 2: I think you can make
a case for a lot of different
clubs and win who needs a
superstar level more branding.
But Philadelphia everything has
built toward this moment.
It is good very little face to
face in Las Vegas.
It will be fascinating to see
how it plays out.